【键盘侠】KD曾调侃球员抱团|哈登成老大篮网成超级球队 KD图啥

Kevin Durant back in 2010 with a tweet poking fun at guys wanting to team up and form a super team. Now...

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Now everybody wanna play for the heat and the Lakers? Let's go back to being competitive and going at these peoples!

Lmao. Dude wants to have his own team with Kyrie, couldn’t even last 3 months. Harden, Blake and now Aldridge. Lol.

凯文-杜兰特2010年曾发布过一则推特，调侃那些想要抱团组建超级球队的人，如今……

推特内容：现在每个人都想加盟热火和湖人吗？让我们变得更有竞争意识，击败这些抱团的人吧！

笑死我了。杜兰特想和欧文联手，3个月都没坚持到，就又搞来了哈登和格里芬，现在阿尔德里奇也来了，哈哈哈哈。

Relevant in 2016 and still relevant now lmao

尼克斯球迷：2016年适用的话（杜兰特加盟勇士），今天仍然适用，笑死我了！

[–]SupersonicsHQuasar 310 指標 9小時前

Relevant in 2011 and still relevant now too

超音速球迷：2011年适用的话（热火三巨头），今天仍然使用！

[–]RaptorsFenixRaynor 327 指標 6小時前

I get KD. In 1993 I thought girls were gross

Sometimes we are young and immature and we idealize things too much. But then a Golden haired babysitter comes along and you question what you ever really knew.

猛龙球迷：我理解杜兰特。1993年的时候我觉得女孩子很恶心，实际上有时候我们因为年轻不成熟，把很多事情想得过于理想化。直到一个金发保姆出现在你面前时，你就会质疑当初自己都是些什么想法。

[–]ThunderHanditoSupreme 226 指標 9小時前

Watch him TRY to back to Presti in 5 years for the vet min after the 34 picks have been drafted...try

雷霆球迷：五年之内普雷斯蒂把34个签都用了，等着看杜兰特签一份老将底薪回雷霆吧。

[–]SunsGraduallyHotDog 78 指標 8小時前

No way yall wouldnt take him back though right?

太阳球迷：你们不可能不想把杜兰特带回去，对吧？

[–]76ersWhiteNoiseReddit 131 指標 7小時前

In a heartbeat and this same guy would be raving about it constantly lol

76人球迷：杜兰特真回去，这群阴阳怪气的人很快就会对他赞不绝口，哈哈哈哈。

[–]ZestyBlankets 16 指標 6小時前

Will he be worth having on a roster in five years? He'd be 37 and he's had his fair share of injuries. Who knows what he'll be like then?

五年之后杜兰特都37了，他还受过不少伤，他还能进入轮换阵容吗？谁知道到那个时候他是什么状态？

[–]Raptorsimsahoamtiskaw 26 指標 6小時前*

We'll take him. On a vet min or a team friendly deal let's say. Still a guaranteed 10 to 15 points at least. KD's game is the kind of game to age gracefully. Combine that with the fact that he's the best scorer ever and 7ft tall, all you gotta do is have him stand in certain spots and have at least 2 more legit threats on the court.

猛龙球迷：到那时我们愿意签下他，以一份老将合同或友情价，至少场均10-15分没有问题。杜兰特的打法上了年纪依然能保持优雅，再加上他是有史以来最好的得分手，身高7尺。你需要做的就是把杜兰特放在合适的位置，同时搭档至少两个绝对威胁。

[–]76ersWhiteNoiseReddit 29 指標 6小時前

I agree with this. Kyle Korver played 20+ playoff minutes in 2 straight finals runs at ages 35 and 36. A little ridiculous to think KD couldn’t lmao

76人球迷：我同意你的看法，凯尔-科沃尔35岁和36岁时还打了两次总决赛呢，季后赛场均能出场20多分钟，要说杜兰特做不到那可真太可笑了。

[–]TimberwolvesNorthstars97 7 指標 5小時前

With his body type and height no way he last that long playing. He's already been riddled with injuries. Just how that goes

森林狼球迷：杜兰特的身高和体型打不了那么久，他已经受了不少伤，事实就是这样。

[–]CavaliersSaxRohmer 2 指標 5小時前

That stroke is eternal. Idk if he’d ever be willing to accept a diminished role though

骑士球迷：跟腱断裂的影响是永恒的，我不知道杜兰特是否能接受扮演不太重要的角色。

[–]fortuna75 19 指標 8小時前*

Well he got a lot of hate back in 2017, now not so much.

Wonder why that is (honestly.. why?)

2017年的时候很多人憎恨杜兰特，现在没有那么多了，我很好奇是为什么？真心地想问。

[–]Mavericksambiguousspark343 109 指標 8小時前

the first time people were shocked. this time, it’s just like, yeah, this is what kevin durant does.

独行侠球迷：第一次人们感到震惊，这一次就不同了，大家会觉得这就是杜兰特。

[–]ruinatex 56 指標 7小時前

Well, it does help that LaMarcus Aldridge and Blake, while big names, aren't the players they used to be, there's a reason those got picked up in the buyout market.

KD formed his own squad, it's not his fault everybody wants to play with him for a shot at a title, what was he supposed to do? Say no? If Aldridge and Blake wanted to join the Lakers you could bet your ass that LeBron would welcome them with open arms and this sub wouldn't say shit.

好吧，我想说阿尔德里奇和格里芬虽然名号仍然很响亮，但是都已经不复当年之勇了，他们会出现在买断市场上是有原因的。

杜兰特组建了自己的球队，大家都想和他一起打球冲击总冠军，这又不是他的错，他能怎么办？不让这些人来吗？如果阿尔德里奇和格里芬想加盟的是湖人，你敢打赌詹姆斯会张开双臂欢迎他们，你们这群人屁都不会放一个。

[–]justanotherboyy 38 指標 7小時前

He literally begged Harden to demand a trade to his team this summer and thats why that rockets roster was torn apart. Say what you will about Lebron and him "creating" superteams" but he didn't make AD come to LA. AD already wanted to come to LA 2 years before his contract ended and they made a trade. Harden tanked all his value by partying during Covid and literally shitting on his team for not being "good enough" so they had to trade him away. Not even the same thing.

If anything, he pulled a Kawhi like he did with PG. Not Lebron

今年夏天杜兰特真的请求哈登提出交易申请，来他的队伍篮网，所以后来火箭的阵容分崩离析。不管你怎么说詹姆斯，说他“打造”超级球队都行，但是他真的没有让安东尼-戴维斯来洛杉矶。戴维斯早在合同到期的两年前就已经想要来洛杉矶了，于是才有了交易。哈登在疫情期间通过开派对不断降低自己的价值，还说了一些队伍“不够好”的屁话，所以火箭不得不送走他。这种情况能一样吗？如果真有什么，那杜兰特也是做了莱昂纳德对乔治做的事，而不是詹姆斯。

[–]kozy8805 27 指標 7小時前

I mean to be fair, LeBron was setting up his Heat team for years. Let's not act like this is just KD.

我想说句公道话，詹姆斯早在很多年前就在热火组超级球队了，不要搞得像杜兰特干的。

[–]Chapwnis 42 指標 7小時前

Yeah but the difference here man is KD left a successful Thunder team for the best team of all time, after choking horrendously against them, and is now building another one. LeBron left the second worst owner the sport has after carrying them to ECF and NBA finals and getting 0 help lol

是的，但是区别在于杜兰特离开的是雷霆这种强队，加盟了73胜历史级别的强队勇士，还是在季后赛被勇士逆转淘汰之后。詹姆斯离开的队伍，老板是这项运动第二个最差劲的老板，詹姆斯强行带队打进了东决和总决，却得不到队友的一点支持。

[–]justanotherboyy 18 指標 7小時前

No one's saying you can't leave a team or join other players during FA. The issue is you're asking players to demand trades during CONTRACTS which is my problem. There is no sanctity in a contract being signed. PG and Harden were literally under contract for 2+ years with their teams and they can just demand a trade to team up with other players which makes the league unfun. KD+Kyrie=fine. KD+Kyrie+ getting harden when hes contracted =not okay

没有人说自由球员不能离开队伍和其他球员抱团，我觉得有问题的是要求一位尚在合同期内的球员提出交易申请，签下的合同是神圣不可侵犯的。保罗-乔治和哈登跟他们的主队还有两年多的合同，他们就提出交易申请和其他球员抱团，这种行为让NBA变得很没意思。杜兰特和欧文抱团没问题，杜兰特、欧文和还在合同期内的哈登抱团就是不行！

[–][BOS] Jayson TatumTheBlueLenses 18 指標 6小時前

same reason why i hate how AD forced himself to only the lakers

凯尔特人球迷：这也是我反感安东尼-戴维斯逼球队把他交易去湖人的原因。

KD has probably played with an all star level almost every year of his career.

灰熊球迷：杜兰特的职业生涯几乎每个赛季都有全明星级别的队友。

[–]CelticsFlyingMocko 686 指標 11小時前

You can make an argument he’s played with an MVP candidate for more than half his career

凯尔特人球迷：你还可以大胆点说，杜兰特过半的职业生涯都搭档一位MVP候选人。

[–]RaptorsRogueRevenger 339 指標 8小時前 

This is why comparing his move to Golden State favorably to LeBron joining Miami has always been funny to me. Early LeBron woulda killed for the caliber of teammates KD had in OKC

猛龙球迷：这就是我觉得拿杜兰特加盟勇士类比詹姆斯加盟热火很好笑的原因，早期的詹姆斯如果看到杜兰特在雷霆拥有的队友，他会想杀人。

[–]ruinatex 174 指標 8小時前

OKC never lacked talent, they lacked chemistry and had a billion injuries that fucked their chances of titles.

2011, 2012 and 2014 they lost to the champs, 2013 was the year Pat Bev recked Russ knee, 2015 was KD's foot and 2016 they lost to a team that won 73 games and had the unanimous MVP.

The comparison with the moves comes from the fact that in both instances, two top 5 players in the game paired up and had a Top 15 guy as a 3rd wheel. There's a reason that LeBron went for the "not 6, not 7" stuff, everybody knew how unfair the Heat was, they just got fucked by a choke job in 2011 and injuries in 2014.

On paper LeBron/Wade/Bosh was supposed to be the greatest big 3 we had ever seen at the time and Vegas had them winning 65 games in their FIRST season together.

雷霆从来不缺天赋，他们缺的是化学反应，一大堆的伤病让他们丧失了争冠的机会。2011、2012和2014年都是被最终夺冠的队伍淘汰，2013年贝弗利弄伤了威少的膝盖，2015年杜兰特的脚受伤了，2016年输给了常规赛73胜的勇士，库里那个赛季还是全票当选的MVP。

拿杜兰特加盟勇士类比詹姆斯加盟热火原因在于，两边都是两位联盟前5的球星搭档一位联盟前15的球星。詹姆斯当初说要拿6、7个总冠军是有原因的，每个人都知道当年的热火多么不公平，2011年和2014年搞砸了分别是因为压力和伤病。詹姆斯、韦德和波什是当时我见过的最强三巨头，拉斯维加斯赌场在他们抱团的第一个赛季就给出了常规赛65胜的预测。

[–]RaptorsRogueRevenger 107 指標 7小時前

I agree with the point about them both joining/forming superteams. However, LeBron joined a super team because Cleveland couldn't even put a decent team around him. Durant had Westbrook and Ibaka for most of his time there. LeBron never had anyone near that quality in Cleveland.

The teams they left are nowhere near comparable. That was my point.

猛龙球迷：我同意你说他们都加入或组建了超级球队的观点，但是詹姆斯是因为骑士不能围绕他组建一支像样的争冠球队，而杜兰特身边大部分时间都有威少和伊巴卡，而詹姆斯在骑士从来没有这种质量的队友。他们离开的球队没有任何可比性，这就是我的观点。

[–]PacersKALU42 90 指標 7小時前

Exactly. LeBron also didn’t join a team he blew a 3-1 lead to the year prior, led by the guy who won unanimous MVP over him.

步行者球迷：确实，詹姆斯也没有加入一支刚在季后赛取得对方3比1领先的队伍，也没有跟着一位全票抢下自己MVP的人打球。

[–]Chatargoon 75 指標 7小時前

Exactly, Lebron didn't team up with the Celts. He created a team to beat them.

KD joined the team that punked his team

的确如此，詹姆斯没有加盟凯尔特人，而是创造了一支队伍打败他们，杜兰特加盟了一支打爆自己的队伍。

[–]PacersKALU42 63 指標 7小時前

Yep. And people want to act like KD had no chance to win in OKC. He was up 3-1 in the conference finals against the greatest regular season team of all time.

步行者球迷：对，大家搞得像杜兰特在雷霆没有机会赢球一样，他刚刚在分区决赛面对那支73胜勇士取得了3：1的大比分领先。

[–]WarriorsProudStephew 799 指標 11小時前

I don't get why he made another super team with the nets lol. I thought he left us because of insecurity of being told he's not as good as LeBron since he won with a super team. He got his 2 rings and now he doesn't want to "earn" another one? I was rooting for the nets at the start of the season in the east but now I'm Heat Nation

勇士球迷：我不知道为什么杜兰特又把篮网变成了超级球队，哈哈哈哈！我认为他离开勇士是因为人们总说他在一支超级球队拿到的冠军比不上詹姆斯，他已经有了两枚戒指，现在不想再“躺”一枚了。赛季初我在东部最支持篮网，现在我已经成了热火球迷了。

[–]RaptorsMuglah 425 指標 12小時前

Right? Like I thought that was the whole reason he left GSW..

猛龙球迷：对吧，我也认为这就是他离开勇士的全部原因。

[–]Minneapolis LakersPardonme23 305 指標 11小時前

He left because everyone loves Steph more than him no matter what. He was the fMVP and all the attention was on Steph at the ring ceremony. Hmm...

湖人球迷：他离开是因为无论如何每个人都更喜欢库里而不是他，他拿到了FMVP，但是夺冠庆典上的主角还是库里。

[–]Warriorsnot_beniot 285 指標 9小時前

Durant wanted to play with another star, but one that is widely hated, so he can reap the benefits and still be the more-liked one lmao

勇士球迷：杜兰特想要搭档另外一位口碑比他还不好的球星，这样他就能成为球迷更喜欢的球星了，笑死我了。

[–]Heatjewjew15 25 指標 8小時前

Russell Westbrook has entered the chat

热火球迷：威斯布鲁克加入了聊天。

[–]HeatMugiwara_JTres3 131 指標 9小時前

Lmaooo KD made sure this time

热火球迷：笑死我了，杜兰特本赛季得偿所愿了。

[–]ZenXw 77 指標 7小時前

I think Harden is getting more love than KD.

我认为哈登应该比杜兰特更受爱戴吧。

[–]indeed_indeed_indeed 3 指標 3小時前

Indeed lool

确实，哈哈哈哈。

[–]WarriorsOgow 68 指標 7小時前

And now Harden is everyone’s golden boy on the Nets...

勇士球迷：哈登现在在篮网，已经成了大家的宝贝了。

Yeah I still love to guy and I'll be happy to see him get another ring, but why did he leave us then? Did he not like the bay area?

勇士球迷：我还爱着杜兰特，如果他能再拿到一枚戒指我会很高兴。但是为什么他要离开我们呢？他难道不喜欢湾区这个地方吗？

[–]pussyeater17 77 指標 11小時前

I guess it wasn’t “his” team? Curry was the man in GS. I feel that had something to do with it...and whatever issues KD and draymond had probably just added to it.

我猜他觉得勇士不是他的队伍，库里才是勇士的当家，我觉得这是主要原因，无论杜兰特和格林之间发生了什么事，都只是次要原因。

[–]Warriorsunpluggedcord 140 指標 11小時前

Nets isn’t his team either lol.

勇士球迷：问题是，篮网现在也不是他的队伍啊，哈哈哈哈。

[–]pussyeater17 60 指標 11小時前

As a non-nets fan I look at them and I don’t really see them as Kyrie’s team either. It’s more nebulous than in GS where it was clearly Curry’s team

作为一个非篮网球迷，我也不认为这是欧文的队伍，而勇士则很清楚，就是库里的队伍。

[–]NetsDarkTimes10 153 指標 10小時前

its Harden's team, he's played the most games solo star (no kd, kyrie) than either of the other two stars by far and has contributed the most to their success at this point

篮网球迷：篮网是哈登的队伍！他独自带队打的比赛最多，杜兰特和欧文都不行，目前为球队做出的贡献也是最大的。

[–][LAL] James WorthyChevy_Nova_Forever 112 指標 11小時前

He left because he knew it would never be his team. And having Green tell him they didn’t need him definitely hurt his pride

湖人球迷：杜兰特离开勇士是因为他觉得这永远不会是自己的队伍，格林告诉他球队并不需要他伤害了杜兰特的自尊心。

[–]ThunderHanditoSupreme 94 指標 11小時前

This is Blake's team now.

雷霆球迷：篮网现在是格里芬的球队了。

[–][LAL] James WorthyChevy_Nova_Forever 49 指標 11小時前

We should all agree that when the Nets win it all we should post on all social media’s “Congrats Blake on leading your team to a championship!” Or something like that lol

湖人球迷：当篮网真的夺冠之后，我们都会在社交媒体发布“恭喜格里芬领导你的队伍取得了总冠军”，或者之类的祝福语，哈哈哈。

[–]NickPickle83 13 指標 9小時前

Brooklyn should have a Lob City 2.0 billboard with Blake, DJ and Harden.

篮网应该树起“空接之城2.0”的广告牌，上面印着格里芬、小乔丹和哈登。

[–]teanosip 12 指標 7小時前

And now it’s hardens team lol, guys in the locker room gonna respect the guy who’s actually healthy and winning them games.

篮网已经成了哈登的球队了，哈哈哈哈。更衣室的人会尊重保持健康，帮助他们赢下更多比赛的家伙。

[–]LakersAmnestyTHAT 12 指標 9小時前

I don't think he's the one making these moves, lol. He left to play with Kyrie.

湖人球迷：我不认为杜兰特是这些操作的幕后操盘手，哈哈哈哈，他只是想去和欧文一起打球。

[–]76ersKimJongTrill44 38 指標 9小時前

GM: “Yo KD you cool if I surround you with another superstar and a top tier supporting cast?”

KD: “Nah man id rather have a worse team so I can gain the redditors respect”

76人球迷：篮网总经理：如果我们再整来一位超级球星，加上一堆顶级角色球员，你会开心吗？

杜兰特：不，我宁愿有一支更差的队伍，这样我就能赢得章鱼直播球迷的尊重。

来源：Reddit

编译：晴天