【键盘侠】篮网大胜勇士|哈登传球能力仅次于保罗和老詹?
文章来源:章鱼直播发布日期:2021-02-15 17:09
[Post Game Thread] The Brooklyn Nets (16-12) defeat the Golden State Warriors (14-13) 134 to 117
【赛后帖】布鲁克林篮网(16胜12负)今日在客场以134-117轻取金州勇士(14胜13负)。
欧文23分5篮板4助攻,哈登19分8篮板16助攻3抢断,杜兰特20分5篮板6助攻,哈里斯15分4篮板,布朗18分7篮板,格林14分6篮板;库里27分3篮板5助攻,乌布雷17分10篮板2助攻,维金斯17分3篮板2助攻2封盖,帕斯卡尔16分4篮板,贝兹莫尔11分3篮板。
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[–]NBA TheOneTrueDoge 125 指標 2小時前
Bit of a blowout.
But the KD hugs after the game seemed to me that there is very little bad blood between the teams.
Most importantly, glad to see no injury on Draymond.
算是有点血洗了。不过从阿杜赛后的各种拥抱看来,我觉得这两队之间还真没啥深仇大恨。
[–]Knicks CptnBlackTurban 58 指標 2小時前
Media and the fans usually make the story bigger than it actually is.
尼克斯球迷:往往就是媒体和球迷喜欢加戏啊
[–]Lakers catch-the-next-wave 34 指標 2小時前
Players must laugh their asses off scrolling Twitter and seeing randos analyze every quote and little moments off the court.
湖人球迷:球员们刷推特看到外界对他们的每句话和场外的一点小动作进行各种夸张分析之后,肯定会笑掉大牙。
[–]Knicks CptnBlackTurban 24 指標 1小時前
KD and Draymond probably eating dinosaur eggs together at a $50,000 plate restaurant laughing at the comments that they hate each other.
Meanwhile those comments coming from an overweight guy drinking sugar water behind on his bills never played ball in his life.
Go figure.
尼克斯球迷:阿杜和追梦或许会坐在动辄消费5万美金的餐馆里,吃着恐龙蛋、笑着看各种说他俩互相看不顺眼的评论。
[–]Lakers Jayveesac 167 指標 2小時前
Nets are absolutely scary when their big 3 players actually try
湖人球迷:三巨头真正发力的时候,篮网绝对是恐怖的。
[–]oatmiIkenthusiast 90 指標 2小時前*
KD goes 8/19? No problem. Kyrie and Harden will chip in for 16/28 and 7/13 from 3. What a fucking team man. Their record against playoff teams is absolutely nuts too, aren’t they still undefeated if I recall?
阿杜19中8?么马达!还有欧文和哈登能送上28中16,三分13中7.这队太特么强了啊。他们面对季后赛球队的战绩绝对变态啊,要是我没记错的话,他们面对季后赛实力的球队还保持不败吧?
[–]Nets Bigbadbuck 86 指標 2小時前
5-1 together so far. only loss was double ot to the cavs.
篮网球迷:合体之后目前5胜1负。唯一输的就是双加时打骑士。
[–]Nets BabyLeVert 70 指標 2小時前
That too it was their first game together.
篮网球迷:那还是他们合体之后的第一场。
[–][GSW] Stephen Curry Nyhrox 561 指標 2小時前
You don't realise how unfair it is to have 3 top 10 players on your team until it happens against you
勇士球迷:队里有三个前十球星对其他球队有多么不公平,我原来是不知道的,直到我也遇到了这种球队。
[–]San Diego Rockets blueberryy 349 指標 2小時前
Try facing 4 top 20 players + Iguodala and everyone telling you your team is shit because they couldn't get past them
火箭球迷:那你尝尝这个滋味:你明明在尽力去对抗一支拥有4个前20球员再加伊戈达拉的球队,可你们干不过对手之后,人人都说你们很垃圾……
[–]Red Lightning4Ever 33 指標 2小時前
Are you telling me Iguodala isn’t top 20? Who else is gonna hit the game winning shot? Curry?
难道伊戈达拉几年前不是前20?那还有谁能投进那记制胜球?库里?
[–]Warriors AndItsNotCloseNephew 43 指標 2小時前
Kyrie isn't top 10, neither was Draymond/Klay
勇士球迷:现在的欧文不是前十水准,当年的克莱和追梦也不是
[–]Warriors surosregime[S] 57 指標 2小時前
Honestly idk about top 10 but Kyrie averaging 28 4.5 and 6 and feels underrated to me
勇士球迷:讲真,欧文是不是前十我不知道,但他场均28+4.5+6,我觉得他是被低估的
[–]Raptors Deca-Dence-Fan 14 指標 1小時前
He’s generally considered top 20, that’s about as rated as you can be without being considered top 10 lol
猛龙球迷:他一般被看作是前20,大家对他的这个定位已经很合理了,哈哈哈
[–]Super 8 giddy___up 14 指標 2小時前
I'd say both Kyrie and '17-'19 Klay are/were top 10 players.
我觉得不管是现在的欧文,还是17到19的克莱,他们都是前十球星。
[–]Vancouver Grizzlies thedarthvader17 8 指標 2小時前
17-19 Klay was not a top-10 player by a fucking mile. You realize we are talking about Klay as a whole, not just when he is hot. And he used to have some extended periods of cold spells.
灰熊球迷:前两年的克莱那特么压根就够不上前十好嘛。你得明白,咱们说得是克莱这个球员整体,而不只是他手感发烫的时候。并且他以前也有过为期不短的低迷期。
[–]Warriors ShadowClawz 185 指標 2小時前
2018 rockets deserve more credit. Taking arguably the most OP team ever to 7 games is a spectacular feat
勇士球迷:17/18赛季那支火箭理应得到更多的尊重。和一支差不多算是历史最强火力的对手打满7场,这是个非凡的成就。
[–]Rockets el_monstruo 61 指標 2小時前*
Thank you. It's also really a disservice to the Warriors and how good they were. There wasn't a team really comparable to them during that time.
火箭球迷:谢谢。不认可当年的我火其实也是在贬低那支勇士以及他们的出色。前些年,还真没哪支球队能和勇士作比较。
[–][GSW] Andre Iguodala oh_what_a_shot 23 指標 1小時前*
It's mind boggling how anyone can disrespect the Rockets for that season. There were hot takes after that series that it was proof that Harden couldn't seal the deal but the only reason it was even a conversation is because he lead the team to a seven game series against probably the best team ever.
I mean I hated the Rockets but I respected the hell out of them.
勇士球迷:居然还有人因为火箭没干过当年的我勇就瞧不上火箭,这真是离谱。那轮系列赛过后还有人口嗨说,那轮系列赛证明哈登成不了事,然而这都能成就一个话题,恰恰就是因为哈登带着球队,和那支也许称得上史上最强的勇士打满了7场。
我也讨厌哈登,可我对他敬重得一匹。
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[–]Supersonics koticgood 24 指標 2小時前
Only the 7th game together for KD/Kyrie/Harden.
Gonna be a spooky team. KD/Harden will try harder on defense in the playoffs too, and KD has proven to be a surprising force around the rim on defense when he wants to.
超音速球迷:这才是杜登欧合体的第七场比赛(其中有场阿杜替补)。篮网以后会相当恐怖的。
到了季后赛,阿杜和哈登在防守端会更加卖力。只要阿杜愿意,他防守时在篮下的护框也是很让人惊喜的。
[–]Knicks CptnBlackTurban 21 指標 2小時前
Kyrie is a magician. There were 2 or 3 layups he missed that were as great as the ones he made. I love that guy and super happy he's doing well when everybody in this sub was shitting on him.
Harden with the almost triple double makes me not want to hate the Nets as a Brooklyn resident Knicks fan.
尼克斯球迷:欧文就是个魔术师。他有两三个上篮没进,但是动作和上进的球一样漂亮。我很喜欢他,这里人人都在黑他的时候他却表现很好,我觉得超级开心。
拿下准三双的哈登,让我这个住在布鲁克林的尼克斯球迷都不想讨厌篮网了。
[–]Nets __gabe 35 指標 2小時前
Great job by Nash tonight. He finished w 19 points and 16 assists
篮网球迷:纳什今晚干得很棒。他全场拿下19分16助(¬◡¬)
[–]Nets BFWinner 33 指標 3小時前
Harden really has figured out the Warriors defense from those first few years. He knows exactly where to throw it and where the rotations coming from. Sick
篮网球迷:哈登这真是前些年打勇士打出心得了。他知道往哪儿传,也很清楚对手的轮转如何展开。变态啊。
[–]Warriors ShadowClawz 5 指標 2小時前
Props to Harden for taking a role cut.
勇士球迷:为甘当绿叶的哈登点赞。
[–]Raptors Deca-Dence-Fan 6 指標 1小時前
For sure, and it makes him the scariest part of the Nets team
猛龙球迷:肯定的,这样的哈登就是篮网最恐怖的人。
[–]Cavaliers stepbacksnipeer 16 指標 3小時前
Is James harden the best player on the nets?
骑士球迷:哈登是篮网最强球员吗?
[–]8inchblackviper 15 指標 2小時前
This game, yes.
这场比赛是的。
[–]Rockets BrallyTX 50 指標 2小時前
Harden the best playmaker in the league
火箭球迷:登哥是联盟最强组织者。
[–]Lakers otiso_niloc 75 指標 2小時前
Harden is an offensive maestro, and it’s a thrill to watch
湖人球迷:哈登就是个进攻大师,看他打球很享受。
[–]Warriors tiya- 116 指標 2小時前
Harden's playmaking was just unreal today man. Not even breaking a sweat and just threads the needle every time.
勇士球迷:哈登今天的组织简直无解。甚至都没出汗,次次都是见缝插针。
[–]idonthave05 100 指標 2小時前
James Harden dishing out assists like $100 bills at the club
今晚哈登喂饼的轻松程度堪比在夜店撒百元大钞。
[–][MIL] Jrue Holiday kd-is-not-a-snake 45 指標 3小時前
Is it a hot take to think he’s a better passer than Bron?
雄鹿球迷:要是我说哈登的传球比詹姆斯强,这算不算暴论?
[–]Lakers Rager_YMN_6 46 指標 3小時前
Naw, Harden's so underappreciated with his passing due to his rep as a ballhog all these years, but I think it's been
CP3
Bron
Harden
Luka, Jokic
There's more than just being able to make all the right passes. CP3 & LeBron (especially CP3) are almost like Quarterbacks who run the offense, memorize the plays, read all opposing defenses, know the personal, understand game situations, manipulate defenses with their playmaking, know where everyone on offense & defense will be in the next few seconds, etc.
I think Harden can fit that bill too, but I think CP3 & Bron are a bit better.
湖人球迷:他还比不上老詹。虽说哈登因为这些年粘球的名声而被大家低估了传球能力,但我觉得是这么个排序:
保罗、詹姆斯、哈登、东契奇和约基奇。传球可不仅限于能合理输送球,保罗和詹姆斯(尤其是保罗)几乎都能像四分卫那样支配进攻,他们能牢记战术、识破对手的防守,了解队友的风格同时还能掌握比赛形势,再通过自身的组织能力拆解对方防线,他们知道每个队友在什么位置,也知道对方的防守将会怎样轮转。
我觉得哈登也有这个能力,不过保罗和詹姆斯更强一点。
[–]ResponsibleWarthog10 27 指標 3小時前
It's kinda tough to compare different types of playmakers. I think he's at least on the same tier as Lebron, though.
风格不同的组织者还是不好比较的,但我觉得他至少和詹姆斯是一个级别的。
[–][HOU] James Harden H-TownDown 12 指標 3小時前
Harden can’t pass that well with his off hand.
火箭球迷:哈登的右手传球不大行。
[–][BRK] Caris LeVert MolingHard 9 指標 2小時前
A lot of its Harden being an absolute monster but a surprising reason for the high number of assists is Joe Harris. Harris has been an absolute sniper for years now even on subpar Nets teams, and I saw a tweet by a Nets beat writer that Harden has assisted Harris the most out of all Nets players.
篮网球迷:哈登助攻多主要是因为他自己实力强劲,不过还有个惊喜的原因就是乔-哈里斯。乔-哈这些年一直都是个神射,哪怕我网菜鸡的时候也是如此,我看到有个写手统计过,哈登在我网最大的助攻受益者就是哈里斯。
[–]Nets lxkandel06 12 指標 1小時前
The Harden and Green chemistry has been off the charts. Ditto for Durant and Harris
篮网球迷:哈登和杰夫-格林之间的化学反应也很强啊,杜兰特和哈里斯也是。
[–]Nets Ratailion 7 指標 1小時前
I feel like TLC and Shamet would get more of his assists but they usually just brick or turn the ball over.
KD, Joe, Green, Kyrie and Brown just tend to actually convert. Heck even DJ converts more than those two, and he messes up a bunch too.
篮网球迷:我觉得鲁瓦乌和沙梅特本能让哈登拿到更多助攻,可他俩一般不是打铁就是失误。
阿杜、乔哈、格林、欧文和布朗这些人确实更容易转化得分。靠,就连经常失手的小乔丹也比那两位更能把握哈登的助攻。
[–]Rockets Bandwagon CheekyFifaCunt_7 25 指標 3小時前
Imagine thinking nets won't make the finals
火箭球迷:居然还有人觉得篮网进不了总决赛
[–][BRK] Caris LeVert Caris_Levert 28 指標 3小時前
TBF it’s only a select area of this sub that really thinks we’re garbage
With that said, this was a great “gimme” game. We’re toast if we don’t get a decent big tho
篮网球迷:有一说一,也就是某些特定群体觉得我网很垃圾。
不过话说回来,这场比赛也算是白给的。如果我们没有一个靠谱内线,那还是很菜的。
[–]oatmiIkenthusiast 10 指標 2小時前
Just say Laker fans mate. They seem to be the ones running with this “we aren’t scared of the Nets” bullshit
你就直说是湖蜜呗,老弟。貌似他们总是散播“我们不怕篮网”这种屁话。
[–]Warriors Pomi12 3 指標 2小時前
I mean there’s still a big difference between trash and making the finals
Personally philly is my favorite to make it out of the east
勇士球迷:我觉得吧,垃圾和打进总决赛之间的差距还是挺大的。
个人来说,我最看好76人冲出东部。
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[–]Celtics Brad-Stevens 33 指標 2小時前
Kerr says the Warriors aren't going to chase wins by putting Steph/Draymond in a couple minutes earlier in a close game in the 4th ... Yet he put them in down 20 with 6 min left?
Interesting
凯尔特人球迷:科尔之前说勇士不会为了追求胜利而让追梦和库里在第四节提早两分钟上场……可他却在全场还剩6分钟落后20分的时候还派上他俩?有意思
[–]tooshort40 20 指標 2小時前
We’ve lost like three games keeping him on the bench too long. It’s so annoying, especially when you’re going against the odds against teams like the nets
就是因为把库里摁在板凳上太久,我们已经输了大概三场比赛。这种安排太让人不爽了,尤其是在我们要以弱者姿态挑战篮网这种球队的时候。
[–]Lakers Room_Temp_Coffee 14 指標 2小時前*
If this Nets team gets a lead early good luck catching them.
Harden's passing was first class.
Wiggins wasn't bad but they need someone else in addition.
湖人球迷:如果这支篮网早早就取得领先的话,那对手想追上来只能自求多福。
哈登的传球是一流的。维金斯打得并不差,不过勇士还得有人站出来。
[–][DAL] Wang Zhizhi suzukigun4life 150 指標 2小時前
All those shots of Klay on the bench as his team was getting blown out were so brutal
王治郅球迷:克莱在场边眼睁睁地看着自己的球队被对手投花,太残忍了
[–]Trail Blazers ChurroMemes 25 指標 2小時前
You can tell he’s in pain and just wants to go out there and help his team.
开拓者球迷:你能看出他的痛苦,以及他想上场帮助球队的急迫。
[–]Warriors CJleaf 209 指標 2小時前
Draymond not injured.
Didn't lose by 20 when shooting 25% from the three point, Kyrie and Harden could not miss.
I'll take it.
勇士球迷:追梦没受伤。我们三分命中率只投出了25%,欧文和哈登又神准,我们却只输了不到20分。这个结果我愿意接受。
[–]Warriors surosregime[S] 53 指標 2小時前
I had my expectations low, therefore I aint disappointed
勇士球迷:我赛前就没抱很大期望,所以并不失望。
[–]Warriors 2RINITY 33 指標 2小時前
Oubre also put up a double-double, so he's come a long way from shitting the bed like he did in the season opener
勇士球迷:乌布雷也拿下了两双,对比揭幕战的拉胯发挥,他这一路也挺不容易的。
[–]Warriors sumchinesewill 27 指標 2小時前
I already predicted that this would be a blow out. Warriors players just aren't good enough to defend this monster of a scoring team but I was still disappointed. They kept getting beat by back cuts and just lazy awful transition defense.
勇士球迷:我早就预测到我勇今天会被暴虐。我勇这些人的实力确实还没强大到足以防守住篮网这种得分凶猛的球队,不过我还是有些失望。因为咱们今天持续被对手溜底线空切,转换防守也很懒散。
[–]Warriors ShadowClawz 11 指標 2小時前
Also there were a lot of wide open 3s for everyone. Just couldn't convert. 2-9 3s for Curry is bad for his standards
勇士球迷:而且我勇人人都有大量的空位三分机会,就是进不了。按照库里的标准,9中2的三分算是很差的。
[–]Warriors Lincoln_Squirrel 7 指標 2小時前
What offense would Dre provide? Love him but he would also be a poor fit, we need shooters, playmakers, literally anyone with an offensive game.
勇士球迷:追梦在进攻端还有啥作用?我很喜欢他,不过他现在真不适合了,我们需要投手和组织者,只要能进攻就行。
[–]Warriors CodexProfit 12 指標 2小時前
We should've kept Iguodala
勇士球迷:当初就该留下伊戈达拉。
[–]bbj123 14 指標 2小時前
Trading him is the reason we have wiggins and the wolves pick
正是送走他才让我勇得到维金斯和森林狼的选秀签。
[–]Warriors CodexProfit 10 指標 2小時前
Iggy has more basketball IQ than like half the team combined he is a strong playmaker and can shoot pretty well
勇士球迷:一哥的球商比我勇一半的球员加起来还高,他的组织和得分都很强。
[–]Warriors takeapieandrun 8 指標 2小時前
Iguodala had 0 offense since KD joined the warriors. Much rather have wiggins
勇士球迷:自打阿杜来我勇之后一哥就没有进攻了。维金斯不香多了吗?
[–][BRK] Caris LeVert MolingHard 19 指標 2小時前
It's weird, the Warriors looked like they were expecting Rockets Harden where the pace is much slower and it's just iso iso iso, but Nets Harden is fast paced, push ahead for a ton of transition buckets, and constant back screens and cuts.
Also I'm not sure if they thought Bruce Brown was a ref or something, but they seemed to ignore him for the majority of the game.
篮网球迷:说来也是奇怪,貌似你勇今天以为哈登会像在火箭那样各种持球单打、保持极低的比赛节奏,可这个篮网的哈登打得很快啊,推进了好多转换得分,还有持续的背挡和切入。
[–]sums95 [分數隱藏] 40 分鐘前
Harden was perfect passing out of double teams. Warriors didn’t have any rim protectors with 3 injured centers and the best two weak side helpers (Draymond and Wiggins) had their hands full with their own assignments.
Someone should put up brown’s shot chart. I swear every one of his shots was within 5 feet of the rim and assisted by one of Harden, KD, or Kyrie
哈登破包夹的传球能力简直完美。勇士三个中锋受伤,两个最强弱侧协防人(追梦和维金斯)也都有各自的任务,所以他们没有任何人能护框。
谁能统计下布朗的投篮分布不?我觉得他的每次出手都是在篮下五英尺之内,给他喂饼的就是三巨头。
[–]Trail Blazers ShadyIntentions 119 指標 2小時前
Bruce Brown is going to make winning plays for this nets team in the playoffs guaranteed
开拓者球迷:到了季后赛,布朗肯定能为篮网贡献制胜表现。
[–]New Jersey Nets MisterTruth 59 指標 2小時前
I've said this a million times but Bruce Brown is just a huge amount of hustle and energy. He is all effort and it contributes all over the place.
篮网球迷:这个我说过很多次了,不过布朗就是个敢打敢拼的球员。他上场就使出全力,哪里都有他的身影。
[–]Trail Blazers ShadyIntentions 14 指標 2小時前
Yeah he won't regularly score a lot like he did today but he brings it all the time on defense and fighting for rebounds which is what this team needs the most to support the 3 stars
开拓者球迷:是啊,通常他的得分不像今天这么多,可是他的全力防守以及冲抢篮板是一直都在线的,这才是三巨头需要的最大支持。
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[–]NBA BigBet0 於 1小時前 發表
Jeremy Lin scores 29 points 9-12 on 7-9 3pt shooting, 9 assists in 31 minutes in the Warriors win against the Knicks
林书豪今天打了31分钟,全场12中9、三分9中7拿了29分9助。
[–]Warriors attaboi12 166 指標 1小時前
I’ll have him instead of wannamaker
勇士球迷:我觉得应该用他换掉沃纳梅克
[–][BOS] Jaylen Brown OrangeKookie 95 指標 1小時前
let me guess
he does the thing where he literally never passes in transition and bricks open 3s when you really really need a 3
凯尔特人球迷:我来猜猜看,沃纳梅克是不是在转换时眼里只有篮筐?是不是在你勇急需三分的时候他空位打铁?
[–]Warriors TheMagicalLlama 77 指標 1小時前
Don’t forget, puts his head down and drives to rim with the confidence of iverson, then looks up to realize he hasn’t beaten his defender in any way, and throws up a brick anyways
勇士球迷:别忘了他还有闷头带球直冲篮下,信心堪比艾弗森,结果抬头一眼发现对方防守人自己干不过,于是就瞎扔打铁。
[–][BOS] Jaylen Brown OrangeKookie 29 指標 1小時前
last season I was convinced he practiced literally only his free throws and nothing else. He's ok if he only has to play 10 minutes a night but if you ask him to do anything more you'll hate his guts irrationally
凯尔特人球迷:上赛季我就觉得他其实只练习了罚球。如果他每场只打10分钟那就没啥,可如果你对他有更高的要求,那怕是要对他恨之入骨。
[–]Warriors TheMagicalLlama 17 指標 1小時前
At the start of the season I was commending him cuz he was the only one who could even dribble past half court lmao, if draymond is down we’re back to that
勇士球迷:赛季初我还夸他来着,因为他当时是追梦下场后,我勇唯一能带球过半场的,哈哈哈。
[–]ai_am_not_a_robot 143 指標 2小時前
Brad freaking Wanamaker should NEVER be allowed to hold the ball for more than 3 seconds ever again
再也不能让特么的沃纳梅克持球超过三秒!
[–]Warriors dublife73 8 指標 2小時前
should be called Wanabricker instead
勇士球迷:应该叫他沃纳没克。
[–]NBA BigBet0[S] 49 指標 1小時前
Free Jeremy Lin
召回林书豪吧!
[–]Bulls snowcone_wars 56 指標 1小時前
If Linsanity returns, I will be so happy.
公牛球迷:要是林疯狂回来了,那我可开心咯
[–]Lakers HenzoH 4 指標 49 分鐘前
If Dion Waiters and JR Smith could be on a championship Lakers squad, there is no reason Lin can’t be a backup pg in the league
湖人球迷:既然之前连维特斯和JR都能在冠军湖人捞到位置,那林书豪没理由不能在联盟打个替补控卫
[–]ThatThingOverThr 3 指標 1小時前
He’s still making the same mistakes that he did with NY/HOU — driving head down, into traffic with tunnel vision. His 3 has improved though and no longer releases at a weird angle.
林书豪现在依然会犯当初在尼克斯和火箭那样的错误——眼里无人地闷头冲向内心啊。不过他的三分进步了,而且再也不会从奇怪的角度出手。
[–]DoctorPlasticCuts 3 指標 1小時前
I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t come back to the league
要是林书豪不能回到NBA,那我才震惊。
[–]91jumpstreet 8 指標 1小時前
im a Jeremy Lin hater but i dont understand how he cant even get a 10 day contract or a training camp invite lol
我是个林黑,不过我无法理解的是,他咋就连一个十天短工合同或者是训练营邀请都拿不到呢,哈哈哈
[–]Jhyphi 9 指標 1小時前
Melo, that you?
甜瓜,是你吗?
[–]Knicks ucfknight92 2 指標 55 分鐘前
He's much, much better than Wanamaker. If he has a retooled 3 and can knock them down, he's a legitimate combo guard. Great passer, great finisher.
尼克斯球迷:他比沃纳梅克强太多太多了。如果他已经优化了三分又能投进,那他就是个实打实的双能卫。能传能终结。
[–]Warriors pragmacrat 3 指標 39 分鐘前
I can't think of any player that is worse than Wanamaker.
勇士球迷:我想不出还有谁比沃纳梅克更菜的。
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