【键盘侠】库里数据不逊MVP赛季|平庸阵容逼出生涯最强库里？

Steph Curry in his last 13 games: 31/6/6 on 53/48/95

库里最近13场比赛场均：31分6板6助，三项命中率分别为53%、48%和95%.

Steph’s 3 point volume is equal to his legendary 2016 season and his percentage for the season is only 2 points off of that. Also, maybe it has to do with no fans but he’s somehow having the best free throw percentage of his career. And his 3 point shooting is so good we sometimes ignore the rest, but he’s shouting 55.5% from 2! He may literally be the most efficient scorer ever

库里本赛季的三分产量和传奇的15/16赛季一样，但是他的命中率就比当年低了两个点。或者这和球迷无法进场有关，但他却投出了生涯最高的罚球命中率。而且他的三分投射过于强大，以至于咱们有时候忽略了他的其他能力，可是他的两分命中率高达55.5%！他也许就是史上最高效的得分手。

Like what do you do about a guy who since 2014 has averaged 26 a game on 64% true shooting, or 27.4 points a game on 65% true shooting since 2016? What do you even do?

His scoring numbers won’t show it by the end of his career due to his 2012 ankle injury and last year, and starting relatively late, but he’s going to end up being one of the greatest scorers ever.

就这么说吧，你还知道有谁自13/14赛季以来场均26分的同时真实命中率高达64%？或者说有谁自15/16赛季以来场均27.4分同时真实命中率高达65%？你还能想得到谁？

他的生涯整体数据肯定不会很亮眼，因为11/12赛季的脚踝伤病和上赛季的伤势，而且他生涯初期得到首发的机会也相对较晚，不过他肯定步入历史最强得分手之列。

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[–]Warriors Acquire__Currency 106 指標 1 天前

While being constantly box and one’d and double teamed.

We are basically watching 2016 Curry playing on the 2020 league-worst L-arriors team.

勇士球迷：而且他还持续受到对方的BOX-1和包夹。

咱们现在差不多就是在看着15/16赛季的库里为一支19/20赛季联赛最烂的“勇输”队打球。

[–]Warriors miraclewhip30 25 指標 1 天前

He should be in the MVP conversation this year

勇士球迷：他应该进入本赛季MVP的讨论之列

[–]San Diego Rockets Fa1lenSpace 8 指標 23小時前

Hell mosty certainly be in, deservedly so. Won’t get a high enough seed to win it, which is dumb but oh well.

火箭球迷：绝对会的，实至名归。不过他会因为球队的排名而拿不到，这很蠢，可也没法啊

[–]Rockets xxpussyslayer98 7 指標 18小時前

The award is a joke if the Warriors make a 6-8 seed and Curry doesn’t get in. Like it’s washed draymond, wiggins, oubre, and a rookie with Curry getting trapped every game. that’s literally the definition of MVP.

火箭球迷：如果勇士最后拿到6到8名但库里错失MVP，那这个奖项就是个笑话。你看看他身边都啥人，过气的追梦、维金斯、乌布雷和一个菜鸟，而且他自己也是每场被包夹，这就是MVP的定义。

[–]Bucks Neuroxex 3 指標 1 天前

So who else is joining the 20+ PPG and 50/40/90 club this year? Pretty sure this would be Steph's second time? Khris Middleton looks likely and maybe Paul George? Are there any others?

It's happened 6 times before, and there's already 3 potential entries just this year. Shooting is wild this season.

雄鹿球迷：所以本赛季还有谁能以场均20多分加入180俱乐部呢？这赛季应该是库里的第二次吧？米德尔顿可能性很大，或许还有乔治？还有其他人吗？

场均20+的180俱乐部以前只有6次，本赛季却很可能出现三个人？这赛季真是投疯了。

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[–]gigglios 479 指標 1 天前

Wish kd never joined man. Lost out on arguably seeing the funnest player since MJ just dominate every night and do silly shit. Havent seen this curry since 2016

要是阿杜从未去过勇士多好啊。本来有机会看着这个自乔丹之后最具观赏性的球员每晚统治全场神作不断，但咱们却错失了。现在这个库里自16年之后就没见过了

[–][GSW] Zarko Cabarkapa IAmNotKevinDurant_35 18 指標 1 天前

we did in the 2017-18 season. he was actually putting up better numbers than 2016 before he missed 30 games with a groin injury. he ended the season .005 fg% away from 50/40/90 and actually averaged more threes per game than his unanimous mvp season before the injury. people were just too busy hating to appreciate how good he was in the kd years

勇士球迷：咱们在17/18赛季就看过啊。在他因为腹股沟伤缺30场之前，他其实打出了更漂亮的数据。最终离180俱乐部就差0.5的命中率，而且受伤前的场均三分命中数比全票MVP赛季还多三个。但是很多人当时都光顾着喷，哪还肯承认阿杜时期的库里其实也很强。

[–]wubbzywylin 483 指標 1 天前

Curry sacrificed his stats and role as the clear #1 on the team for more team success, non-boxscore watchers still know he was the best player on that team tho.

为了更多的团队成就，库里当年牺牲了个人数据和公认的大当家地位，不过那些非数据流看客还是很清楚，他依然是那支勇士阵中的最强点。

[–]Lakers CurryCarriedDurant 270 指標 1 天前

It wasn't even close. There was a 10+ point differential when Curry sat compared to when KD sat. Curry was just the better player for that team

湖人球迷：而且是大幅领先二当家阿杜。库里缺阵时勇士的得分比阿杜缺阵时少十多分。库里在那支勇士就是比阿杜更强。

[–]Warriors AndItsNotCloseNephew 63 指標 1 天前

He was the clear #1 to anybody who understood how our offense worked. There’s a reason Doc doubled Curry and left KD open

勇士球迷：但凡能看明白我勇当年进攻的人，都知道库里就是最强点。不然为啥里弗斯会包夹库里而放空阿杜呢

[–]Thunder Psycho188 35 指標 1 天前

I'll never forget watching Curry, without the ball, drawing a double team in the corner on a fast break while KD, a 7-footer, was given a wide open lane for a fast break dunk in the finals. His gravity is just unreal (also those Cavs teams were terrible defensively, but mostly the gravity).

雷霆球迷：当年总决赛对方球队宁可给阿杜暴扣让道也要包夹底角的库里，这种画面我一辈子都记得。他的引力简直变态。

[–]Nets Mimogger 10 指標 1 天前

Yeah, that's definitely the defense fucking up because they were scared of Curry, not that they were instructed to let Durant get a wide open dunk. More credit to curry for scaring the shit out of the other team

篮网球迷：是啊，对方教练并没有授意球员放空阿杜暴扣，就是他们太怕库里了，所以防线才会垮掉。更多的功劳还得记在把对手吓出翔的库里头上。

[–]NBA democrenes 23 指標 1 天前

Filthy casuals always thought KD was better. Still do

有些恶心的伪球迷一直都觉得那支勇士队里阿杜更强。他们到现在都这么看。

[–]Celtics hahaman821 2 指標 12小時前

KD was elite at both ends of the floor and a great rim protector for the Warriors. Steph at his best is average defensively. Is it really absurd to say a 2-way player who is easily a top-3 offensive player in the league (and you could make an argument for #1) is the best on his team? He won 2 Finals MVPs.

凯尔特人球迷：阿杜攻防都顶级，而且也是那支勇士的顶级护框者。库里的防守充其量就是个平均水准。我们觉得那个进攻随便进联盟前三的攻防一体球员是那支勇士的最强点，这真的很过分吗？？他可是拿了两个FMVP的。

[–]imanurseatwork 10 指標 1 天前

Impossible to know who is the better player. KD is putting up similar obscene stats (after an Achilles injury) and has obviously been an exponentially better defender than Curry.

那支超级勇士里谁更强还真不可能说清楚。阿杜现在的数据也同样爆炸啊（跟腱大伤之后），而且他的防守明显甩库里几条街。

[–]wubbzywylin 27 指標 1 天前

Yeah KD's been playing amazing so far, especially crazy considering the Achilles injury.

But at the same time, he's been surrounding by some of the best offensive players for the past ~5 years, so it's hard to take his numbers at face value.

那是，阿杜目前为止都打得挺好，何况他还是受过大伤的。

可是你也别忘了，阿杜这五年来身边一直都不缺那种进攻能力顶级的队友，所以咱还真不能仅凭他的数据就下定论。

[–]imanurseatwork 9 指標 1 天前

And curry hasn't?

难道库里就不是？

[–]Warriors nightstar713 14 指標 1 天前

I mean the only offensive player that Steph has played with that's on his level is Kevin Durant. He's never played with two guys that are just so high level octane offensive players like KD is now.

勇士球迷：我觉得吧，库里这些年唯一合作过的同级别进攻球员就只有阿杜。阿杜现在还有两个进攻能力炸裂的队友，但库里从未有过这种机会。

[–]Shae DaFunnyHo 6 指標 1 天前

KD is def a better all around player, but Steph is more impactful offensive player. Especially in terms of raising the ceiling of his team. He is like the engine, while KD is the closer.

就全面性而言，阿杜绝对比库里强，不过库里的进攻影响力更大。他更能提升球队上限，就像是发动机，而阿杜则是终结者。

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[–]Clippers sterninator39 485 指標 1 天前

it's crazy to see how good curry is at shooting. dude was shooting 40-45% from 3 back in the day taking these shots no one else dared to take. now guys like trae young and dame lillard do it and they're both considered great shooters at 36-38% from 3. the fact that curry has been taking these tough 3s AND he's consistently shooting low-mid 40% from 3 is insane

快船球迷：看到库里这投射就觉得不可思议。几年前他就投出了40%到45%的三分命中率，当时根本就没人敢像他这样扔。现在有利拉德和吹羊敢这么扔，他们扔出了36%到38%的命中率，大家就觉得他们是顶级投手。再看看库里，他一直都在扔这种不讲理三分，而且他的命中率总能稳定在40%到45%之间，变态啊

[–]Eric_Nathan_Fielder 310 指標 1 天前

Lillard and Trae are great shooters, especially Dame, but they're nowhere close to Steph. Klay is better than both and I don't think he's close either. Game 6 Klay is the goat by a large margin though.

利拉德和吹羊都是顶级投手，尤其是利拉德，可他俩都连库里的尾灯都看不到。虽说克莱也比那两位强，但我觉得他也远远不如库里。不过G6克莱就是遥遥领先的史上最强。

[–][TOR] Kyle Lowry kornly 116 指標 1 天前

37 point Klay is the goat

猛龙球迷：单节37分克莱才是史上最强。

[–]Raptors ahobbledehoy 37 指標 1 天前

Klay "why do I need to dribble" Thomson

猛龙球迷：克莱-干嘛要运球-汤普森

[–]Mavericks necropuddi 119 指標 1 天前

That was against the Kings.

Game 6 Klay is against championship-caliber teams on try-hard mode.

独行侠球迷：单节37分那只是打国王。

G6克莱那就是以困难模式面对冠军级别的对手。

[–]Warriors untouchable765 212 指標 1 天前

If Klay were playing we would be dominating. Steph is in 2015-16 form.

勇士球迷：如果这赛季克莱能打，那我勇就能统治联盟。库里现在处于15/16赛季的状态。

[–][LAL] Shaquille O'Neal GoSuckYouMudda 10 指標 1 天前*

Y’all definitely would not be dominant go. But y’all would definitely be a top 5 team. The overall team isn’t good enough to dominate

湖人球迷：就算有克莱，你们也没法统治联盟。不过你们肯定是前五球队。统治联盟的整体实力还是差点。

[–]Warriors Bornplayer97 48 指標 1 天前

You underestimate how bad Oubre can be my friend, switching him for Klay would be like switching crappy wagon wheels for f1 racing wheels

勇士球迷：那你是不知道乌布雷有多菜啊，老铁，把他换成克莱就像是把破车轮胎换成F1轮胎。

[–]Warriors Zugbert 43 指標 1 天前

Not only that, but it would move Wiggins from a 2nd scoring option down to a 3rd and take even more pressure off Draymond to score. Wigs has been better than I expected as a 2nd option, but his game would really open up as a 3rd option with all the extra spacing Klay creates.

Then if we used the TPE on someone other than Oubre (like a high IQ big), I really think we'd be talked about with the Lakers/Clips/Jazz as favorites to win it.

勇士球迷：不止啊，还能让维金斯从第二选择降为第三选择，而且能减少追梦的得分压力。维金斯目前作为第二强点的表现高于我的预期，不过要是加上克莱创造的空间，维金斯打第三强点才更能如鱼得水。

[–][GSW] Monta Ellis baby_hooper 15 指標 1 天前

Curry-Klay-Wiggins-Green-Wiseman could be the best starting 5 in the league next season. Bench wouldn’t be bad either: Oubre, Bazemore, Lee, Paschall, Looney, Chriss

勇士球迷：到了下赛季，我勇库里、克莱、维金斯、格林和怀斯曼的组合也许是联盟最强首发。板凳也凑合：乌布雷、贝兹莫尔、李、帕斯卡尔、卢尼和克里斯。

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[–]jrviimonya 73 指標 1 天前

We know.

Sucks that he wasted two prime MVP level years due to shit out of his control.

咱们都知道啊。

操蛋的是他因为情势失控而浪费了两年MVP级别的巅峰期。

[–]NBA HitboxOfASnail 49 指標 1 天前

thats a strange way to describe back to back ships

你这么形容背靠背冠军还挺奇怪的

[–]RahulVij24 81 指標 1 天前

I think he’s talking about 2019 and 2020 lol (lost prime years due to injury + Covid)

我觉得他说的是18/19和19/20赛季（因为伤病和新冠而闲置巅峰期），哈哈哈

[–]NBA HitboxOfASnail 23 指標 1 天前

ok. i thought they were going with the often repeated (an incredibly stupid) "KD robbed us of prime steph curry"

行吧，我还以为他们又要反复提那句老生常谈（愚蠢至极）的“阿杜剥夺了我们的巅峰库里”

[–][TOR] Kyle Lowry kornly 7 指標 1 天前

Idk how anybody can watch this Warriors team (and pre KD warriors) and think that the KD warriors were more fun to watch. Obviously it was a good team, but it was not nearly as fun

猛龙球迷：但凡看过现在这支勇士（和阿杜去之前的勇士），要是还觉得有阿杜那支勇士更好看的话，那我真搞不懂这种脑回路。有杜勇士确实是强队，但观赏性差太多了。

[–]Shae DaFunnyHo 10 指標 1 天前

The 16/17 team were def very fun to watch. After that season, they didn't move the ball the same and didn't take the regular season that seriously. The most fun Warriors team in terms of all around team play on offense and defense was 14/15 with Bogut playing a prominent role in how they ran their offense. 15/16 Warriors were fun, but it was primarily because of supernova Curry and Draymond legit being dominant on offense and defense in his role (that was the only season Draymond deserved to be an all-star).

16/17赛季的勇士还是非常好看的。自那之后，他们就没有以前那种转移球了，而且也没把常规赛当回事。就团队整体的攻防配合而言，观赏性最高的勇士就是进攻由博狗特做轴的14/15赛季。15/16赛季也很好看，但主要还是库里超神和追梦在攻防两端的统治力表现（这是他唯一一次配得上全明星的赛季）。

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